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posted Tuesday February 23, 2010 11:34am EST

A “Fantasy Matters” Follow-Up: How “Real” is Hogwarts?

Dr. Kirtland C Peterson

In Fantasy Matters, I noted Ursula K. Le Guin’s admonition—to fantasy/SF readers and writers alike— to “Know Thy Fantasy Literature.” To understand where, say, the Harry Potter stories “fit” into the sweep of fantasy literature, it is important to know the “school” corpus. J.K. Rowling did not create Hogwarts out of thin air, nor did she hang Harry, Ron, and Hermione’s school experiences on hooks entirely of her own invention.

Not surprisingly, perhaps, a number of readers were interested in this thought strand. I received several e-mails—all from the lower forty-eight, all interested in my parenthetical comment that I’d attended British boarding schools—wondering how “real” Hogwarts was, that is, how like a bona fide British boarding school Hogwarts might be.

With seven years of British boarding schools under my belt—ages 10-12 at one school, 12-17 at another—Hogwarts had always struck me as familiar, but I’d never thought much about the parallels: how many, how deep, how meaningful, how instructive?

Now I have.

Without writing a dissertation on The Reality of Hogwarts, a few thoughts about magical trains, inspiring architecture and secret passageways, Headmasters, quirky teachers (“masters”), quidditch, exams, and great friends.

These reflections also led to a startling realization: Hogwarts misses a thing or two. In the end, I wondered if J.K. Rowling had attended boarding school, or whether she just knew about it, as all Brits do—it’s part of the culture. Regardless, she certainly knew the “school” stories that preceded hers.

Magical Trains

Trains are magical—at least they were.

Back in the day, in the U.K., you would often see “train spotters” of all ages and the ends of train platforms, recording the passage of trains, noting the names of the engines. At age ten and fresh from California, I thought these people were certifiable. Trainspotting? Didn’t they have anything better to do on cold, rainy days?

But a few years later, though no train spotter, I had fallen in love with trains. There is no better way to travel, the longer the run the better. Trains are, indeed, magical.

Trains take you places: old familiar places, places you’d never dream of going (but that’s the way the tracks were laid), new destinations—always away from home, at least at the start, the memorable part. Boarding school is all about leaving home. In the language of the Hero’s Cycle, home is the Village of the Known, the train station is The Threshold, the train takes you on The Journey.

Whether it’s your parents driving you to school at the beginning of term or—as was true for me later—boarding a London-bound 747 in San Francisco, a “train” whisks you (and all your kit packed into a trunk) away from home, into the unknown, onto the journey of your life.

(Yes, I’m a big fan of high-speed rail. The more the merrier!)

Inspiring Architecture & Secret Passageways

Were I dictator of the world, every school would be an architectural marvel, a marvel for young minds not egotistical architects. It is no wonder the moans about the quality of American education are so loud: the buildings students spend their days in are soulless.

While the boarding schools I attended weren’t Hogwarts—the old paintings never moved, magic bridges were scarce, only a single tower—they were Victorian and Gothic and marvelous. Creaking, wood-lined passageways. Tight, dark stairwells, the stone underfoot worn smooth from generations of rushing feet. And secret passageways.

Oh yes.

At the backside of the headmaster’s thatch-roofed house, you could see a grassy mound. This was an old, padlocked, World War II bomb shelter. If that wasn’t enough, it was said to be one of several access points to tunnels running beneath the town, itself a maze of old buildings, tiny Elizabethan theaters, cathedral-like churches, and Roman ruins.

Though not for lack of trying, my friends and I never did find the subterranean passageways. But we did find a passageway in the main building, many stories up, through the roof rafters. Scrambling up through a trap door in the ceiling, we made our way to an ornate window, one that looked out over “the chapel” far, far below.

Thrilling.

I should add that the Headmaster’s house remains my idea of the perfect house. A classic Tudor home, it was old, thatched, and sagging, not a straight line or right angle in sight. It smelled ancient too: of wood, rose petals, and fire. It sparked wonder of things past, of whispered secrets and ghosts. The headmaster’s office was in the house, a stone-floor room with a hearth as big as any at Hogwarts. Antique desk and bookshelves, leather bound books, paintings of ships, battles, and craggy mountains.

Headmasters

If Albus Dumbledore is a larger than life Headmaster—the Power that guides the school—then I’ve met Dumbledore, and more than once.

My first Headmaster sprang straight out of a Dickens novel. A military man with no previous teaching experience, he was tough as nails, a Mr. Gradgrind if ever there was one. He also had his Achilles’ Heel: life-threatening diabetes.

His command extended over fifty odd seven-to-twelve year olds, and he Made an Impression, a lifelong impression. If there was a representative of the most high on earth, he was it, at least in our minds.

I shall never forget our morning “swims” in the summer term. The unheated, outdoor pool was about 58˚F. We were required to swim two laps. A kid from California who’d done swim team, I was back and forth and out in a jiffy. My friends were slow swimmers, and often emerged waterlogged, shivering, and blue.

My second Headmaster was pure Victorian: tall and rail thin, inclined to wear a cape, bushy sideburns, an aquiline nose, wire-framed glasses. And he never aged. My son returned to the same school I attended, and the very same Headmaster was still there, looking just as I’d seen him last. He stood outside of time. He was also forever getting lost among the various school buildings and winding corridors.

Do Headmasters give long, peering-over-spectacles, Dumbledore-type speeches? Oh yes. I have been to many Assemblies at which the Headmaster addressed the whole school, stirring us to we’re-all-in-this-together action of some kind or another. He was an accomplished orator, each word selected with foresight, delivered with precision.

Quirky Teachers

James Hillman, the archetypal psychologist, has said young minds need quirky characters around them. British boarding schools—at least in the past—were chock-a-block full of colorful, multi-dimensional characters that would have pleased Hillman to no end. I can’t help but think much of the attraction for the Harry Potter stories is a desire—a hunger—for character. So many teachers these days strike me as milquetoast, bland, cookie-cutter, cloned, “by the book”—but always someone else’s book.

As I thought about answering those “Hogwarts” e-mails, it struck me that if ever I needed to populate a wizard school with memorable teachers, I could base all of them on the masters I had known.

There was my physics master, always having his equations corrected by the brighter students, most of whom had fathers working at the particle physics lab just down the road; “just checking,” he would say, too often. There was my art master, talented and inspirational, but usually tipsy or suffering a hangover, always smelling faintly of cheap booze and unwashed clothes. There was my biology master and Housemaster, a man who could remove his glasses more slowly (and dramatically) than anyone I have ever met, reveal two tiny eyes, and wither whomever dared to question him in matters large or small. There was my math master who also sang opera, and my Religious Knowledge master, just down from Oxford, keen on “demythologizing” ancient texts, whose inspiring thoughts got me summarily flung out of Bible Study.

Then there were those masters, too, who resented my presence, cocky Yank that I was. Such “dark masters” might give you detention—or cane you. There was nothing like a good caning to take you up a notch in your friends’ estimation.

While my school wasn’t, like Hogwarts, co-ed, there was a girls school just down the road. And if you had a girlfriend from there, you knew all about the colorful characters shaping your female counterparts’ minds. And at joint dances, to see these two sets of teachers square off? Marvelous!

Quidditch

Rough sports are a staple in British boarding schools: rugby for boys, field hockey for girls. Quidditch is an aerial version of all those Wednesday and Saturday afternoon games spent traveling to other schools, engaging in supervised violence, nursing wounds, reliving games, singing the bawdy Jerusalem—“And did those feet in ancient time…”—at the top of our lungs on the way home.

Back in the day, sports were central to school life. Sports were compulsory, a common experience. And at every level you played nearby schools, despising biased refs, nursing grudges for years, and pouring your heart into games against school rivals.

I shall never forget a rugby game during which a particularly offish rival stepped on my forehead with his cleated boots. Noting the blood running down my face, the ref asked if I needed attention. “No,” I said defiantly. I had a score to settle.

So quidditch—is “real”!

Exams

In Britain, your secondary school life is dominated by two sets of exams, O-levels (now GCSEs) taken at about 16, and A-levels taken at about 18. More, these exams, in many ways, determine the arc of your life in a way US examinations don’t.

So Harry’s OWL exams and the importance he and his friends ascribe to them is all too familiar.

Great Friends

Central to the Harry Potter stories is friendship. Without a doubt, boarding school promotes deep friendships and deep relationships, in the way that getting stranded on a desert island with others might, assuming things didn’t go the way of Lord of the Flies.

Living with friends is very different from seeing friends often. I understand Ron and Hermione’s loyalty to Harry, and his loyalty to them. J.K. Rowling captures all of this very well.

What’s Missing?

While Hogwarts well captures much of the British boarding school experience, it struck me that some essential ingredients were entirely absent, which struck me as odd. I’ll mention two: music and Shakespeare.

Music

Once upon a time, music was a big part of boarding school life.

On the informal side: the school had a thriving secondhand LP market, a student-run Jazz Club that only invited rock bands to play at the Music School (and got away with it), and bands. Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford of Genesis fame met at Charterhouse, a well-known British boarding school in Godalming, Surrey. (Take a look at the school’s web site Flash picture gallery: remind you of Hogwarts?) Though after my time, Radiohead had its origins at the school I attended.

On the formal side: the chapel choir (whether you had chosen to be in it, or forced to listen to it Sunday after Sunday, year after year), school musicals, a big productions—say, Handel’s Messiah—that included students, masters, and visiting soloists and musicians. And the pipe organs! We had a small one in our chapel, but the massive pipe organs in the cathedrals down town, and in Oxford, just up the road? Wow.

John William’s music certainly pervades the Harry Potter films, but music—and the centrality of music—seems absent from Harry, Ron, and Hermione’s lives. Fantasy need not be without music, Ursula K. Le Guin’s Always Coming Home and Margaret Atwood’s The Year of the Flood spring immediately to mind, not to mention the many songs and ballads in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings.

How easy it would have been to include music at Hogwarts!

Shakespeare

And where is The Bard in Harry Potter?

Shakespeare was core to English classes, as were memorizing and acting out scenes on a regular basis. We put on whole plays, even difficult ones such as King Lear and Hamlet. Not infrequently we were herded onto buses and whisked to nearby schools putting on their own Shakespeare plays, and we were rewarded with trips to Stratford-upon-Avon, to see the Royal Shakespeare Company.

Oh, to have seen Harry, Ron, and Hermione on stage!

Which Leaves Me Wondering…

Did J.K. Rowling attend boarding school? Or did she just know about it, as all Brits do—and, perhaps, bone up on her “school” literature corpus before diving into writing Harry’s adventures?

I do wonder.

A big thanks for the e-mails! What a profitable—end enjoyable—set of reflections!


Dr. Kirtland C. Peterson—“Cat” to his friends and colleagues—feeds his left brain with science, his right brain with the rich feast of fiction, including SF and fantasy.

Among his life’s highlights are sitting in the pilot’s seat of a shuttle prepping for launch at the Kennedy Space Center, and accepting Brannon Graga’s invitation to pitch Star Trek scripts at Paramount in LA.

Just finished Alice Munro’s Too Much Happiness. Tonight’s DVD: Serenity—a favorite.

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categories: Written Word, Movies, Culture
tags: harry potter, School, fantasy, genre, boarding school, trains, architecture, headmaster, quidditch, music, shakespeare

25 comments
Teresa Jusino
1.  TeresaJusino
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 12:00pm EST
I love this post!

And I think the most interesting point you bring up is the one about the lack of music in Harry & Co's lives! It's not something that I noticed in reading the books or watching the films, but when you bring it up it does seem like a gaping hole. It's something I ask myself re: a lot of sci-fi/fantasy...what music would they listen to? I think it's integral to building a world.
April Vrugtman
2.  dwndrgn
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 12:02pm EST
Now I am jealous. Can I enroll in boarding school at 41?

Yes, American school buildings are soulless. Horribly dull and uninspiring. However, we do have some characters - at least I met some going through school. I had an advanced biology teacher who was also a semi-pro accordion player and the coach of the track team. We were sometimes given impromptu concerts as well as charged to spend our class time re-painting the track field.

I also had an advanced English class teacher who encouraged all sorts of mayhem. We were allowed to write a quote for the day on the chalk board - whatever we wanted by whomever we wanted. We also redecorated the room often according to whatever tome we were studying. While studying Look Homeward Angel the room was toilet-papered and overly decorated with paper angels, leaves and twigs.

Oh yes we had some characters. There were many more but those two were the most fun.

But, I still want to go to boarding school!
mbg1968
3.  mbg1968
Tuesday February 23, 2010 12:31pm EST
Fascinating! Thanks for this. Being American, but growning up reading tons of British literature, I've always wondered about this.

In the same way, I've always found Dorothy Sayers' Oxford/Balliol in Gaudy Night fascinating, confusing, and unknowable. It's not SF, but if you'd like to do an article on that (or point me to one), I'd love that.
mbg1968
4.  a-j
Tuesday February 23, 2010 12:50pm EST
I've long held the theory that Rowling was drawing on the old British tradition of boarding school stories which began (I think) with Tom Brown's Schooldays and continued with Angela Brazil giving the girls' side and Billy Bunter, Jennings, Molesworth, St Trinian's, Malory Towers and the Chalet School. It was Rowling's bright idea to take that trope and add magic. While I respect Ursula le Guin and worship Sir Terence Pratchett, I think their criticisms of Rowling were a touch unfair on these grounds. I suspect that Rowling never attended boarding school herself. Neither did I, but I grew up in the UK and with the above story tradition even though I didn't read them. I disliked school and disliked school stories. I agree entirely about the necessity for eccentric teachers and mourn their loss under the English national curriculum. The whodunnit writer Edmund Crispin stated that every school should have at least one peculiar teacher left to teach whatever it occurs to them to do so from table etiquette to witchcraft.

It's not just music and Shakespeare that Hogwarts seems to lack, it's the arts generally. I hadn't noticed the lack either. We know about wizard sport and politics but have only a few references to a rock band and a childrens' book. Nothing else, unless I missed it. How do wizards fill their spare time?
Liza .
5.  aedifica
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 01:19pm EST
I enjoyed your post, thank you! But now I'm curious: what's the bawdy version of "Jerusalem"?
mbg1968
6.  Gray Woodland
Tuesday February 23, 2010 01:59pm EST
Splendid, sir. I was a comprehensive boy myself - offered a scholarship to a boarding school at the age of divergence, and recoiled from the idea in utter horror - but I was brought up not only on SF and fantasy but upon Jennings & Co., whose world was not the least alien of those I played tourist in. And I had a ripping good time there, too; and think that Rowling rang some jolly wizard changes on it.

Strange how I'd never noticed the artistic poverty you mention before. There is a certain shallowness, a surface-deepness to Harry Potter's world, and I'd never considered that as an explanation. I must look again next time I re-read them. That could explain much.

Out-book, I suppose it has something to do with Rowling, or more likely her experience of arts at school. In my day, at least if her school was like mine - concerned principally with sorting already-apt sheep from not-worth-teaching goats - I can see why it might have been a blank to her in retrospect. That's one area where regular British education has actually picked up its game. I think I would have learned to draw and sing, these days, if not to be anything extra at them. But Rowling is of my generation; and, yeah, meh.

In-book - ah,,has not Le Guin herself taught us how magic is needful as bread and delightful as music? But Rowling's is more facile and protean than any one art of ours, so we should hardly be surprised if it has partly displaced them.
Leigh Butler
7.  leighdb
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 02:29pm EST
There's a whole essay I read somewhere about the influence of the "school days" subgenre on the Harry Potter series. I wish I could find it, I'd link to it. But, basically, yes; and I think that part of the reason the HP books were so madly successful is because the basic notion, "British boarding school + magic", is so immediately and appealingly obvious as a winning combination that it's astonishing that it hadn't been popularized long before.

(I say "popularized", because I doubt that Rowling's the first to ever use the idea, but she's definitely the one who popularized it, if I may be allowed such a gross understatement.)

Anyway, as to the music/Shakespeare thing. For the latter, I'd venture to guess that Shakespeare would probably be considered a Muggle thing, and therefore not appropriate for wizarding school. Rowling often made a point (usually through Hermione) of noting how stupid wizarding prejudices were about these things. Alternately, I'll note that while Hermione took "Muggle Studies", Harry did not, and as he was the POV character, Shakespeare may very well have been covered in that class, and we just wouldn't have heard about it.

And as for the former, I strongly suspect that Rowling may simply not be a very musical person, and that's why music is not really addressed in the books. It's often easier to forget (or decide to ignore) something that you yourself have no personal interest in.
Barry T
8.  blindillusion
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 02:36pm EST
"British boarding school + magic", is so immediately and appealingly obvious as a winning combination that it's astonishing that it hadn't been popularized long before.


Would The Worst Witch count?
Leigh Butler
9.  leighdb
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 04:20pm EST
blindillusion:

Well, if a made-for-TV movie from the eighties can count as "popularizing", then I suppose.

But, uh, no, not really.
Barry T
10.  blindillusion
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 04:30pm EST
True. It was all the rage...well, not really...in my home town in Mississippi, but I don't think I've ever heard it mentioned by anyone since.

I do remember watching it and thinking that would be a cool way to go to school though.

Eh. Memories. Also didn't realize it was a made-for-TV deal. Should have read up. Opps.
mbg1968
11.  Stephen Morrison
Tuesday February 23, 2010 05:18pm EST
Rowling said in one interview,
I was educated through the comprehensive system. I've never even been inside a
boarding school.
mbg1968
12.  Tatterbots
Tuesday February 23, 2010 05:57pm EST
The Worst Witch was a series of books before it was ever on TV. The first ones were published in the 1970s, I think. They're much shorter and simpler than the Harry Potter books, and they play up the negative side of boarding school life more - the dreary uniforms, draughty buildings, loneliness, etc. The books were illustrated by the author and I've always loved the pictures of Mildred with her long plaits coming undone. (I've only read the books, not seen the TV version, so I don't have a clue what that's like.)

The lack of arts at Hogwarts (and education about anything other than magic - surely it's too much to expect wizarding kids to know all the English and maths they'll ever need by age 11) must have struck Alfonso Cuaron too, because there's a school choir in the third film, performing a Shakespeare-derived song. The implausible part is the timing. The first day of a new school year is the least likely time for a school musical group to perform anything. When are they supposed to have rehearsed it?
Rf P
13.  readforpleasure
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday February 23, 2010 09:33pm EST
"British boarding school + magic', is so immediately and appealingly obvious as a winning combination that it's astonishing that it hadn't been popularized long before."

A number of people have suggested magical school stories such as Mary Stewart's The Little Broomstick and Jane Yolen's Wizard's Hall as Rowlings' likely influences. But "popularized" at the scale of the Harry Potter phenomenon probably wasn't possible in earlier decades, regardless of the number of similar books on the market.
mbg1968
14.  Billy Bunter
Tuesday February 23, 2010 09:58pm EST
Oh, come on: the absolutely overwhelming difference between Hogwarts and a real boarding school is the same as the difference between virtually every other boarding school story ever written and a real boarding school, which is that the boys don't spend 85% of the time thinking about sex, talking about sex, or masturbating. Believe me, in the battle for attention Lord Voldemort is nowhere. And that's a genre convention.
We shouldn't be comparing Hogwarts to Eton, we should be comparing it to Greyfriars.
mbg1968
15.  EmmaPease
Wednesday February 24, 2010 12:25am EST
Hogwarts is also unusual in being apparently the oldest boarding school in Britain and being co-ed from the beginning.

Wonder what Muggle Studies would have done with The Tempest or Macbeth?
Kathleen J
16.  tanaudel
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday February 24, 2010 02:33am EST
Love the trains! I did my honours thesis on "The Role of the Railway in British Children's Novels" and had a blast - I spent an entire year reading Harry Potter (or what existed of it at the time) and CS Lewis and Garner and Nesbit and Blyton and Forrest and so many more books which combined them with at least the magical, if not outright magic, and quite frequently with boarding schools. I also had a killer note system and, were it not for being forced to use the word "liminal", had a wonderful time.
mbg1968
17.  Lsana
Wednesday February 24, 2010 12:44pm EST
I have to disagree that American schools don't have any sort of interesting character. Mine did, at least. We had narrow stairways and weird passages (like the one from the boy's locker room to the band instrument storage). There were strange nooks that would be taken over by a particular clique to use as their base of operations. The rumors were even better and included things like a swimming pool hidden under the theater/gymnasium wing and an entire secret wing underneath the cafeteria. Oh, and I didn't go to any sort of 100-year-old snooty private school. It was a public school built in the 70s.

American schools also have their share of quirky teachers. None of my teachers, at least in the subjects I cared about, were colorless or bland. Some I loved, some I hated (and in fact still hate), but they all made an impression.

As to the lack of music, my guess is that it mostly because Harry wasn't a musical person. They did have a school song in the first book, and Dumbledore commented about how "Music is a greater magic than all we do here." So I suspect that there are music clubs and choirs and such. Harry, however, got into Quidditch and never really went for choir, so we didn't see that part.
mbg1968
18.  AielAdam
Wednesday February 24, 2010 01:00pm EST
First off, I'll admit that I haven't read Harry Potter, and really have no desire to. But on the topic of boarding schools (which exist in Australia as well although I did not attend one), I found Roald Dahl's autobiographical "Boy" to be a great book, and most it takes place in an English boarding school.
mbg1968
19.  Marilynn Byerly
Wednesday February 24, 2010 02:11pm EST
Hogwarts is much closer to graduate school in the real world. Everything is specialized on one subject, and the core learning areas in children's education--reading, math, writing, general science, and general history-- are ignored.

Instead of world history, they have wizard history, etc. The muggle and wizard worlds are separate, but even a wizard child needs to understand things like world wars and atomic bombs which will and has impinged on their world.

A wizard child would also need to be taught reading and math at a higher level than what they'd have received before entering Hogwarts.

As to JKR not mentioning music and Shakespeare, I don't think that's really relevant to the novels. A novelist should only put into the novel what is needed to make sense of the world she is creating and the characters within it.

Every classroom scene she has is relevant to the plot, worldbuilding, and the characters. Except for too many Snape is a bully and hates Harry scenes, she never strays into useless information territory.
mbg1968
20.  a-j
Wednesday February 24, 2010 03:16pm EST
A possible, if unlikely, pre-Rowling boarding school + magic contender could be MR James' "A School Story" (c. 1911) a ghost tale set in a boarding school which opens with a group of old boys reminiscing about uncanny stories from their schooldays.
mbg1968
21.  Lee B-D
Wednesday February 24, 2010 03:35pm EST
I enjoyed this article.

I think magic takes the place of things like music (though we do see a choir singing in one book) - it is a specialty school with a special focus. Magic is not just a hobby but a talent to be schooled for the future. Those who have magical abilities must be trained properly, and thus the focus is on that training. We get to see whatever hobbies Rowling wants to emphasize like Quidditch; Harry's abilities in that area matter as they help him to save the sorcerer's stone, and to deal with the dragon in Goblet of Fire. Flying a broom well was necessary to forwarding several plot points. Even in real life, it is hard for parents to get kids to all their "after school" activities like sports practice and music lessons. You often have to choose between them at some point.

The art is wonderful - it is all around them. The walls are filled with moving art. I suspect the magic involved in painting such pieces takes more education, and by the time Harry & co. might take an interest, they have other things on their mind. With Voldemort around, they don't have time for pursuing art. Or music. Their focus turns to how to protect themselves or solve mysteries or defeat evil.

I'd not thought about the missing elements before. Now that I've read this, I understand how they might have been included, but I don't miss them. It does make me think about my own writing, and what might need including or editing.
Andrew Mason
22.  AnotherAndrew
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday February 24, 2010 04:56pm EST
Tatterbots@11:

surely it's too much to expect wizarding kids to know all the English and maths they'll ever need by age 11

I'm really not sure of this. The only English and maths we really need to get through life - as opposed to wanting it because it's part of our idea of an educated person - is basic reading, riting and rithmetic; and I would have thought people did know them by the time they are 11. Their reading and writing abilities will continue to develop after that if they read and write - whether or not they get formal instruction in those subjects.

Marilyn Byerly@19.

Hogwarts is much closer to graduate school in the real world.

Not in Britain. Undergraduate study focuses on one or two subjects. The last two years of secondary school generally focus on three (in England: more in Scotland, but still a restricted number). Even the idea that education up to the age of 16 should maintain breadth is quite new. I attended a British boarding school in the 70's, and while I did a fairly broad range of subjects in my first two years because I had a scholarship, a lot of my contemporaries focused either on arts or on sciences from entrance (admittedly at 13, not 11). To someone used to traditional British education, Hogwarts is not so surprising.

I don't think I was ever taught about world wars or atom bombs at school. I think there was a much wider assumption that if something is common knowledge people will be able to pick it up. (I don't think this is wholly wrong. No doubt it is a good idea to teach people things you think they need to know; nevertheless it's not the case either that if they aren't taught it they won't know it, or that if they are taught it they will know it. After all, J.K. Rowling was presumably taught maths at school, but it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect.)

On a different note, I think Tales of Beedle the Bard includes an explanation of why Hogwarts doesn't do drama.
Ursula L
23.  Ursula
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday February 24, 2010 05:12pm EST
As to the lack of music, my guess is that it mostly because Harry wasn't a musical person. They did have a school song in the first book, and Dumbledore commented about how "Music is a greater magic than all we do here." So I suspect that there are music clubs and choirs and such. Harry, however, got into Quidditch and never really went for choir, so we didn't see that part.

I don't think that it is quite right to use the "school song" as an example of "music." It was explicitly said that everyone sang their own tune, with no consideration for any actual musical effect. Dumbledore may have commented that "Music is a greater magic than all we do here" - but that "all we do here" includes the school song, and its horrible non-music-ness.

If anything, I'd take the school song as more evidence of the general lack of the arts in Hogwarts. It is lyrics put together for humorous rather than artistic effect, with no consideration to melody, harmony, or quality performance.

The only real artistic effort I can think of by the main characters in the books is the twins' jokes and joke shop, where they use talent and creativity to create objects intended to delight.
mbg1968
24.  DRK
Thursday February 25, 2010 07:18pm EST
In one of the movies, the camera goes past the choir room, where the choir is practicing the witches' song from "Macbeth". So, Shakespeare and music both.

Of course, that was the movie version, not the books.
mbg1968
25.  Rob Myers
Thursday February 25, 2010 07:36pm EST
If you want to send your kids (or grandkids) to a place in the States like Hogwarts, I'd suggest one of the small, less-expensive, older universities.

When I look back at my time in Northern Arizona University, it feels a lot like Hogwarts might: Adventure; learning (some on the curriculum, most off-curriculum); deep, lasting friendships; old brick buildings; forests, the scent of warm pine, wild animals skittering through; charming, eccentric professors; and a pragmatic education, once all was said and done. And there are definitely places nearby that would remind you of the Three Broomsticks and such.

I go back once every five years, and the feel of the place hasn't changed all that much. Macy's Coffee House and Alpine Pizza are still there, after almost 25 years...
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